This is my final report where I discussed the manipulation of Religion.
I hope you guys enjoy, and once again I ask for your patience with my
amateur editing skills.
Questions to ponder:
What are your thoughts on the topic?
How do you feel about the relationship between Religion and Humanity?
Do you believe that religion's grip is lessening on newer generations?
Do you like Hunchback of Notre Dame?(Joke Question, but feel free to answer)
Let me know in the comments!
"We have found a witch. May we burn her?" Sorry, I just had to pause your video when you mentioned this particular form of manipulation.
ReplyDelete"What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better."
http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Holy_Grail/Scene5.htm
Marvelous reference there! Monty Python is the Holy Grail of amazing references and humor(Pun-intended)
ReplyDeleteAnother good presentation Patrica; looking forward to subscribing to your YouTube channel. Suggestion: watch the 1939 film The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Trailer: https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1821245721?ref_=tt_pv_vi_aiv_1
ReplyDeleteHere is a question for the future Patrica. Suppose she gets married and has a daughter. The daughter grows up, becomes a committed Christian, and has your granddaughter. She takes your grandchild to Sunday school and church, and teaches her to love Jesus and the Christian god. What do you do? Do you tell your granddaughter that what her mother is teaching her simply superstition and a way of manipulating her? Do you think you should/will respect your daughter's beliefs and not interfere with how she is raising your grandchild, or would you feel it proper to inject your views? I face that question now.
Parental love and support are supposed to be "unconditional" but that would be a challenge. We never hesitated to let our girls know from early on that Mom & Dad had some divergent beliefs in matters "spiritual," while encouraging them to think for themselves. Implied was the promise of unconditional love and acceptance, wherever their autonomy might lead. Easy words when the autonomous agent is still a child -- I remember when our youngest was about five and wanted to know what "we" (our family) believe, and it was not hard to say that we really were a plurality and not a monolithic unity -- but when she's a parent herself the dynamic is very different. The longer you live, the more interesting life becomes.
DeleteNot future Patricia, but I wanted to weigh my thoughts on the scenerio. If I personally do not agree with a viewpoint of a parent -any parent, my sister, my extended family, ect- as long as those views do not result in the abuse of the child, which i don't believe most forms of religious manipulation falls under, it is best not to interfere. A parent is a child's main source of love, caring, and understanding in the world around them in their first bits of life. Children in general do not have the capability to decern these more complex topics for themself and it only causes confusion and uncertainty. A child shouldn't look at their mom or dad and think that they are lying to them or that their beliefs are faulty. Discussions of religion should be kept for older individuals, I would personally keep conflicting talks about religion to around high school. I only oppose talk along the lines of "Do you tell your granddaughter that what her mother is teaching her simply superstition and a way of manipulating her?" which can cause a rift between mother and daughter, not any talk of how other religions work or what they are about.
DeleteThe point I was making is that one should love their child regardless of whatever beliefs the child decides upon. I should make note that I have zero intention of ever being a parent, but I will entertain the thought for this question. Should I someday have a daughter who decides she is a Christian, then more power to her, I'll love her the same. Should she also have a daughter and take her to church, then that's her prerogative, she's the Mom then. To be Frank, I don't give a damn about anyone's beliefs so long as they respect mine and do not use theirs as a sword to stab people with. So if this percieved daughter used church as a way to punish said granddaughter, then I'd have a problem and would speak out. Now, If this granddaughter of mine began to question her beliefs and asked me questions, I would be happy to sit and discuss alternatives with her, but I wouldn't purposely dissuade her, especially if said child has any of my genes, I'm an over thinker and that would be on my mind for years. In the case of my friend, his words led me to believe that he would use his faith as a punishment towards his future child, and speaking from my mother(daughter of a Baptist pastor)'s upbringing, it causes such a rift and I don't think even today she has fully forgiven my Grandpa for not allowing her to be herself and forcing her to conform to his version of belief. I wouldn't wish that on anyone
DeleteI always hated the villian in Hunchback. When he adopts the baby, I think its worth pointing out that as soon as he sees him, he calls the baby a monster and immediately walks over to a well and almost throws the baby in - but the archdeacon stops him, telling him that responsibility for the baby is his punishment for spilling innocent blood on the sanctuary steps. And then Frollo is a jerk and tells him that the baby has to live in the sanctuary locked away from everyone. Love that movie.
ReplyDeleteThe musical is even more damning, you should watch or listen!
Delete"Discussions of religion should be kept for older individuals, I would personally keep conflicting talks about religion to around high school." I respectfully disagree, Crystal. I remember having some great conversations with our girls back when we were working our way through the Berenstain Bears catalog and came across a great story about why Papa Bear didn't go to church. In general I think young children are entirely receptive to philosophical and "spiritual" ideas, and most of us become less open to thoughtful considerations of alternative ideas by the time we hit High School.
ReplyDeleteI wholeheartedly agree
DeleteI fear that people will always find an outlet for their insanity even in the absence of religion. The USSR was theoretically a secular state, but the absence of religion didn't do much to counter backwards thinking in the country.
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